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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:38 pm

Thanks Coront. I don't think I really elaborated enough but I just meant that I think some people were of course doing something which was causing the server to crash like dropping certain entities or using them. Since all me and Jim were doing were just driving around and gathering we weren't really doing anything with entities. So basically it's player-based crashes.

I also think the bug about using a car's inventory is invalid because I must of done it about 20 times in a row before stopping and it did nothing. Many things will seem like they crash the server but it's usually just coincidences right now.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:42 pm

Its definitely player based, but we just don't know what people are doing to cause it.

If you ever do something and the server crashes almost immediately afterward, report it here, and we'll do some tests.

Sometimes it may seem like a coincidence, but it might not be.
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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:46 pm

Well with that being said, I'll talk about a couple different bugs, well possible bugs atleast.

-Displaying items from vendors seems like it can crash the server, it's happened more then once with me just as I display it out of its case

-Dropping a vending machine has also had a crash happen right after I click the drop button for it, more then once as well

-Dropping the robot charger also had a crash just as I dropped it, but it's said that is fixed so maybe it wasn't it's fault.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:05 am

- Creating leather armor seems to have caused a crash.
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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:01 am

I don't want to sound like a wet blanket here but I really don't see me playing much until a good portion of this is worked out. I just don't want to risk losing anything.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:16 am

Good idea. I lost a couple things already. Crashes are so frequent

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:18 am

It's fairly stable if you just want to scavenge, but save your character a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:54 am

Aha!  Revelation.  Dropping anything from your inventory has a very high chance of crashing the server.

EDIT: Don't know if this will help, but here's a detailed explanation of one particular crash

Isaiah bought 2 Riot Gear from my vendor (placed miraculously without crashing) at 190/190/190
I grab the resources
Wants to make a trade, Remington 870 for my two Riot Helmets
I agree, two minutes later he drops the shotgun and as he does (before the shotgun actually appears in game as an entity) the game crashes.  
I reconnect, Riot Gear is gone from my vendor when I place it back down, I do not have the currently collected 380/380/380 and Isaiah does still have his Remington 870


UPDATE: Just played on the server for hours by myself, alone, and for test purposes didn't drop a single thing from car or inventory but did use things from my inventory, and I suffered NO crashes, even after 2 conglo drops. It seems to be just that dropping certain things (or anything at a certain time, maybe?) seems to crash the server.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:07 am

I feel like dropping anything can cause a crash and that's the only thing that's causing crashes. Last time I bought an item from someone he dropped a model CMG and said right when he did the server crashed. Dropping any entities seems to crash it sometimes.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:17 am

Exactly my point, anything dropped by players crashes.  Been playing for 5 hours, haven't dropped anything, no crashes. Anything but cars, I should say.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:00 am

Dr. Exavolt wrote:
I don't want to sound like a wet blanket here but I really don't see me playing much until a good portion of this is worked out. I just don't want to risk losing anything.


James has a backup of the character data for the previous version of Gmod, so i think your character is safe.


Postnuke 2 in four months i think

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:23 am

Honestly I don't wanna play on the server that crashes usually whenever someone drops something. I also don't wanna play on another different server for four months cause the other ones all suck anyway. So basically I just don't wanna wait 4 months for there to be no bugs x.x.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:27 am

UPDATE:  I HAVE IDENTIFIED THE SOURCE OF ALL PROBLEMS THROUGH RIGOROUS TESTING
DROPPING THINGS HAS NO EFFECT.  IT SEEMS TO BE THAT VENDORS CRASH THINGS BUT ONLY A FEW SECONDS DIRECTLY AFTER ANYTHING IS ADDED OR REMOVED (OR BOUGHT) FROM A VENDOR.

someone please confirm

EDIT: I am completely fucking retarded, nothing I'm saying is making sense, I didn't test enough.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:13 pm

Here's a bug I just experienced:

I'm just minding my own business, scavenging, when the server starts getting choppy.
Next thing I know, I've got 2500 ping, I can't move, and I hear a scorpion attacking me.
I end up getting disconnected, and when I rejoin, I have 5 HP left, but I'm missing my AK-47, About 180 rounds of ammunition, a combat knife, and 700 400 300. Think it was server lag but I'm not 100% sure.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:23 pm

I don't know if it's still important to even help out with the first server or not because I heard it can't be completely fixed, so Postnuke 2 is just being completed faster now.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:41 pm

Soooooo anyone wanna just have some all out war while we wait for postnuke 2? I mean unless we keep our stuff why not?

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:34 pm

No, rules will still be enforced as they once were.
A complete RDM fest isn't the greatest way to introduce new players to the game mode.
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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:42 pm

Postnuke 2 is a long ways away. I'd just play it cool until news comes along for it

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:55 pm

Coront wrote:
No, rules will still be enforced as they once were.
A complete RDM fest isn't the greatest way to introduce new players to the game mode.

I meant like an organized faction request war, but whatever you want coront.
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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:04 pm

Gnomp wrote:
Postnuke 2 is a long ways away. I'd just play it cool until news comes along for it
I can't play it cool because postnuke is so broken right now with all the crashing D:

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:15 pm

Advanced duplicator crashes the server on spawning some dupes

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:17 pm

Faction organized war is fine, as long as everyone participating agrees on it
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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:01 am

-When you join the server, a very loud noise plays. Sounds to be a helicopter, electricity, and radiation playing at same time (Only on csc_desert)

I've never experienced this, but when I'm on the road in CSCDesert, that sound that you described appears about midway through the map, also sometimes accompanied by rising smoke, and appears to be coming from under the road.

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:12 am

BTW I think the multiplas rifle is crashing the server.
Could anyone try it ?

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PostSubject: Re: 3-9-15 PSA READ NOW   Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:28 pm

Almost anything crashes the server atm, zontar :p.

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