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PostSubject: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:40 pm

Server: [Frostburnt Foundation] Fallout: Decay

Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:101332053

Your RP Name: Pvt. Telion

Date of incident: 11/13/15

Time of incident (HH:MM 24hr): 6:30pm

Time Zone: Pacific

Length of ban: Two weeks

Please explain exactly what happened from start to finish: During a relaxed Friday, my friends and I were making the best out of our time on the server. My friend Bartonuis Trayarch, was flying his helicopter in the air letting my NCR buddies and I shoot at it for target practice. Though in one instance, Bartonuis had a mishap flying is helicopter and he died as his helicopter crashed. He crashed and died near town, so his belonging were vulnerable. I immediately claimed my friend's case in text chat (for the logs so admins could refer to it in the future if needed and onlookers would know that the case is not up for grabs) and in voice chat too. Two player came close to the suit case, though in my experience it didn't seemed like they went in the case and I wasn't going to shoot them for just getting near the case. Bartonuis came back as quickly as he died and went to the case and told me things were stolen from his case. I then saw one of the two suspects that were near the case and quickly interrogated him. I trusted what he said, for our previous business in our past and his consistent pleas of forgiveness to not to kill him. I was going to give up the pursuit of the mysterious thief but my commanding officer, Specialist Fields told me that the other person that was there near the case took the things that were missing. So since my commanding officer saw the other person near the case stole from the case, I proceeded to hunt for the thief and deliver justice. Bartonuis took me in his helicopter to find the thief easier, though as we were lifting off, Bartonius again crashed his helicopter killing the two of us. Luckily my NCR comrades were near and defibbed the two of us. As I were getting thing back in my inventory, I saw the thief just meters away from me. This was my only chance before the five minute timer rule lifted my justification. So with swift action, I killed the thief with my shotgun and his Sentry Bot with my M-14. The thief asked me when he died, why I killed him. I said nothing because I honestly didn't need to explain there and he could just call a admin sit.

As I was brought to the admin sit, the thief (I honestly don't remember his name) and a admin was there managing our sit. The admin handled our situation with what seemed to be protocol. Though at times when I answered his questions he would pause for a few minutes before answering back. During in our sit, the thief insisted that he didn't steal anything, though he did.
The admin also showed the thief logged proof that he did stole certain items from my friend's case that I claimed. So with my justification for killing the thief was said and proven it seemed like I was free to go. Though not the case, the admin told me, "On another note Pvt. Telion, I'm going to have to ban you for two weeks" I asked, " Why in the hell am I being banned for two weeks?" he then said "I'm taking this word down from a higher admin that is helping me on this sit and he said you committed RDM against the person that stole the items from the case you claimed.". I had a hunch where this outrageous judgment came from. I asked the admin, " Is this superior of yours, Sinnamon?" the admin said, " Yes". Knowing that painted my situation perfectly and went on waiting maturity for the admin to ban me from Sinnamon's word.

After I was banned I went on the TS to ask for advice and opinions on my current situation that happened almost a week ago. As I was sharing my experience to other admins on TS, Sinnamon joins the channel that I was in. He butts in saying why he banned me. These are his key points he stated to me.

- Claiming the suit case in chat is not an applicable rule anymore, it was taken off from the rule chart a month ago.

- I had no right to claim the bag for he thinks Bartoniuis's is not my friend in the game. (Bartonius is my friend in the RP aspects of the game, though not in my faction)

- A admin other stated a point that Sinnamon jumped on, saying, "if I did claimed the bag, why didn't I pick up the items? You could of been baiting other players to entice them to open the suitcase and kill them for doing so." In my opinion that was ridiculous and there were plenty of witness that seen this situation that knew and felt that I was in no way perverting the way of claiming my friend's suitcase.

I was dumbfounded with what he said. So what came out of he TS situation, I was still banned and was recommended to make a Ban appeal from admins other than Sinnamon.
Before closing my appeal I do want to share another experience with Sinnamon that you can see the relation with my situation.

This happened a few days before I was banned. Its was like 4am and the only players online were  Sinnamon, some other player, and I. It was pretty quiet for a while until it was interrupted by a Conglo drop. Jack and the other player attacked the Conglo group and I knew better to not better not to mess with Conglos, so I went resource farming. Five minutes later I came back to see if the Conglos were taken out. I didn't see any more, though I seen a case on the ground. I didn't see Sinnamon or the other player in sight so I went over to the suit case. Saw it was the other player's case and looked inside of it. Saw a Beret sniper, though before I could think any further, Sinnamon popped up out of nowhere and said in text chat, " Get away!". That's all he said. The very moment he said that, he killed me cold blooded. Again, I was dumbfounded. Went back over to where he killed me. Sinnamon was waiting there. I told him he had no right to kill me, " You never mention to get away from the case when I was even near the case." Sinnamon said that was "his friend's case" going off of his word. He also said, " You can have your things back". I was really surprised when he said this to me. Sinnamon always steals from me and him letting me get my things back wasn't normal. So with Sinnamon's permission, I went back to my suit case and put my fallen belonging back in my inventory. Though my resources were stolen.

I hope you understand that experience with Sinnamon. It clearly show's what he did to me, is very similar to what I did to the thief. With all this being said, this is why I'm banned and a detailed explanation of my situation too. I wish to be back on the server as soon as possible. Thank you.


If you have any evidence to support this report, please give it here: Logs on the day I was banned that showed my reasoning and legal justification of killing the thief were provided in game.
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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:12 pm

Alright, I can see you trying to pull this again with me. As I told you on team speak the staff member dealing with the sit told me no names. So you can cut it out with trying to make it look like I have it out for you, when it's the other way around. How can I make a bias decision against you if I had no knowledge of you being involved in the sit. You just assumed and threw a hissyfit on team speak. It's really hard to believe when people claim to be 'friends' as it is easy exploitable by simply saying "Oh yeah, we are friends" when in reality, you aren't. I have never ever seen you with bartoniuis and I am on the server most of the day, 7 days a week.
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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:33 pm

The initial reason for the sit was as following;

Jinx Gomez called a sit for "RDM"
I brought you both. He claimed you killed him for touching a case in which he did not enter.
After looking into it I found out he had.

Furthermore I looked for some assistance and a discussion brewed.
I was informed that you had no right to the initial case in which was owned by said "Friend"
Therefore, you were punished with a two week ban for the initial "RDM"

Whatever relationship you feel has impacted this decision isn't present.
The punishment was agreed upon, not just Sinnamon himself.

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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:38 pm

Wait... couldnt he just have claimed it for himself? I dont understand why this was RDM. He tried to "presumably" save a case... but if he claimed it than why was it RDM? Please explain. I need a better explanation as jve nanned Telion before for stupid shit but this one time skynds pretty convincing that he was in the right for once in his life..
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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:54 pm

Price please may I speak with you on TS with De Luca
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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:58 pm

Sinnamon, you do not know personal business, please don't act like you do. Bartonuis is my friend, go ahead and ask him
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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:01 pm

Price, I in fact did so claimed my friends case for myself though I didn't want to pick it up so soon because after I pick up one thing, another person could pick up an item. I didnt want to risk anyone going into the case so I guarded, then Bartonuis popped up soon to go back to his case.
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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:05 pm

Funny thing about this situation no admin witnessed this situation. Only the guy I killed, some of my NCR comrades, Bartonuis, and I. All the admins learned from this situation was second hand info. Killing someone was the one thing I avoided the most, though once I knew the other person stole the goods, I killed him justifiably. As well with Sinnamon banned me for the same thing he did to me a few day earlier I was banned. So I'm quite perplexed of this situation.
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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:35 pm

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PostSubject: Re: [Denied]Removal of ban (Pvt. Telion)    Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:44 am

The ban for RDM is expunged however you will serve the rest of it for NLR/Admin disrespect.

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